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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:53 pm 
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JD:

Thanks for the follow up on the "apt" . . . right, I've seen you commenting about that before so that wasn't a problem. But in terms of the "Blacklist nouveau" . . . that I didn't get to do after "nv" was installed, even though I tried that the day before so it may already have been blacklisted and that's why it just went to the GUI straight from the CLI tty shell, would I need to do it again? or does the fact that there is a GUI mean that "nv" is running the show? And does that mean that the xorg.conf file is not being used? or do I need the xorg.conf file along with "nv"?? I've seen suggestions that say to delete the xorg.conf file.

It's also not clear why then the Display is said to be "Unknown" if nv is running and there is a GUI that is basically readable in a 2D kind of a way . . . . Why there are multiple kernel panics still happening when trying to log in, and why is the ethernet "unmanaged"??? But, at least now I should be able to copy/paste out of Terminal so troubleshooting MAY be easier . . . I'm taking a short breather on this, maybe back to it later in the week. Thanks though . . . back in a bit.

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Re: fresh install Mint11 next to OSX partition 85% successfu
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:50 pm 
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Please eep, if it works, don't touch it again. It was difficult enough for us to get you here in the first place. Be happy with what you have now. You won't have MintPPC 11 for now, but you can get yourself aquainted with the new system.

I would install at least GDM as your display manager and LXDE as desktop environment (you have to login into an lxde session from gdm).

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sudo apt-get install gdm lxde


gdm will replace the display manager you use now, gdm3 I guess...The display manager takes care of logging a user into the GUI.


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Re: fresh install Mint11 next to OSX partition 85% successfu
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:39 pm 
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Please eep, if it works, don't touch it again. It was difficult enough for us to get you here in the first place. Be happy with what you have now.


@JD: I don't understand what you are saying . . . it's not perfect yet . . . . : - ))) Don't worry, it's very clear to me how much time has gone into getting it where it is . . . I'm only hoping to reduce or possibly avoid the other system problems that came up in the past . . . when problems cropped up after a week or two--not looking for perfection. And, I'm not in a rush, I can appreciate now what Mint11 is providing in terms of apps packages already pre-selected, but now I've got one computer with Mint11, one with straight Debian, and one with LMDE--so I'm happy that all of them is based in Debian that means the learning will all be focused for what works for Debian. But, thanks for the "gdm" and "LXDE" ideas, there is a basic login window and it looks like it gives the option now of GNOME, GNOME classic, and "System default" . . . which I've left it on "system default" and that's fine . . . but having other DE options is something I am interested in, LXDE is fine, also I have XFCE on the MBPro . . . so I was thinking about trying that out if it's available. From memory I'm not sure if Debian has "synaptic" loaded or not, but I think I want that, and the "evolution mail" program seemed to crash when I clicked on "add account" so I think that Ice Dove will also be on the list of things to add . . . otherwise, I'm not messing with it unless it starts messing with me . . . like I'd like to just be able to log in or suspend without kernel panics . . . making the process take longer than it should.

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Re: fresh install Mint11 next to OSX partition 85% successfu
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:07 pm 
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Well, if you want to step to MintPPC one day, I can always try to help. It is easier to install it from scratch, but you can also end up at a similar result starting from Debian base. You need to adjust a lot of stuff manually then of course.


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Re: fresh install Mint11 next to OSX partition 85% successfu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:42 am 
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@JD: Trying to get the straight Debian partition to run without too many issues and I've had some forum suggestions to "adjust the system timer to 1000 hz" . . . but citing the need to recompile the whole kernel, which I'd like to avoid. Is there a way to adjust a specific file using nano to change it to the 1000 hz from the default 250? And then, would that make a difference in overcoming multiple kernel panics when trying to boot into Debian? It seemed that each time I've tried to boot the Debian partition in the iMac there were kernel panics, although yesterday for the first time I got a GNOME/openbox DE running without a panic . . . . I'm wondering if I can boot the iMac in Target mode and then adjust the system timer file in the iBook connected by FW without building/compiling the whole kernel--does that sound like it's do-able? And if that sounds do-able would you know which exact file in the /lib/modules directory would contain the system timer data? Any thoughts?

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Re: fresh install Mint11 next to OSX partition 85% successfu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:31 am 
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I have no clue about this Hz issue of yours, sorry.


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Re: fresh install Mint11 next to OSX partition 85% successfu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:33 pm 
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xxx wrote:

I'm going to repeat what I had stated earlier, "Build the kernel with 1000hz." This will improve desktop performance. The standard kernel that comes with Debian is not proper for a user end desktop. Follow whatever kernel compiling tutorial available, there should be one on here. Cut out what you don't need. If using
Code:
make xconfig
you can use the find/search function and type in "1000" sans quotations. The description will mention "desktop": and "systems." Choose it.

The problem is that nouveau is better for 3d and the LCD screen doesn't play nice with the driver. I also use nv with FreeBSD.


@JD: There is more to the discussion in terms of the technical parts of adjusting the system timer resolution, which MAY have something to do with how the system determines when it uses RAM and when it uses swap . . . The default is 250Hz . . . . It's not that I want to rebuild a kernel at this point, but, with the nv driver it seems that "suspend" is something that can not end with simple clicking of the mouse or keying a letter, so there is no "sleep;" the system needs to be shut down or rebooted when I want to take a break for several hours, which is inconvenient because there has been this issue with multiple kernel panics on booting into Debian . . . . This solution of doing the system timer was suggested as a possible solution to the kernel panics . . . . I was just wondering if MintPPC has already adjusted that in some way? although there certainly were kernel panics with the MintPPC installations previous to this one . . . and they seem to be continuing . . . . Thanks though for the reply . . . .

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Re: fresh install Mint11 next to OSX partition 85% successfu
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:36 am 
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I found a way to make the font rendering better. If you like to try, go to your home folder and download the following file:
Code:
Code:
cd ~
wget http://mintppc.org/files/mintppc9/fonts.conf
mv fonts.conf .fonts.conf 


logout from this session, login and start IW5. You will be surprised...


Would this post "Iceweasel5" from the distant past be useable for the same purpose (improve the font rendering in Iceweasel 10) in iMac 800 running straight Debian Wheezy?

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Re: fresh install Mint11 next to OSX partition 85% successfu
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:17 pm 
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It is very likely.


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Re: fresh install Mint11 next to OSX partition 85% successfu
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:35 pm 
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linuxopjemac wrote:
It is very likely.


Great. I'll give it try sometime soon . . . post back with the results . . . .

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