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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:09 pm 
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Greetings:

So I don't have to mug thru hours on Google, I'd like to know how can change the color of the bottom "Dock" which seems stuck on black matter what I do in the Desktop Managers. I also hit the buttons there for the "right side" Mac style icons, but it doesn't work, even after several reboots. In fact I have no disk icons on my desktop at all, even my Mac partition ones, like I manged to do in Unbuntu, and the only ones there are files I placed there via File Manager because it seems (to me) that you can't directly place files on the Desktop. Also, how can I change the background color of a window from white? (I don't mean the desktop background wallpaper color). Lastly, how can I get and transfer Ubuntu wallpaper images for MintPPC?

Thanks for any assist.

Jim in NYC


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Re: Puzzling Basic Desktop Configurations
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:54 pm 
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icons on desktop:
there is a bug in pcmanfm, so you don't see the folders of your computer. I can't help that.

Panel:
right click on the panel (F11)
Click Panel Settings
Click Appearance Tab
Change from System Theme to Solid color
Change the color and opacity. You will see a different panel color then

Wallpaper:
just download the right wallpaper. Then a F11 on the desktop (right click). Dekstop preferences -> Wallpaper, set the desired wallpapaer.

For the colors of the windows I have no solution yet. You can set the color of the window panel in Preferences -> Openbox Configuration Manager


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Re: Puzzling Basic Desktop Configurations
PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:29 pm 
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Greetings.

Interesting thing happened. I used Openbox Configuration Manager to apply a new space wallpaper via the F11/mouse right-click command into its LXDE popup and resized it to stretch entire screen then suddenly my bottom panel bar went totally black without any icons at all. Openbox was still up so when I attempted the F11/mouse right click thing on the desktop to undo the stretch, instead of getting the LXDE popup with the Wallpaper options, I got a generic pop-up:

Terminal emulator
Web browser
Desktops
ObConf
Reconfigure
Restart
Exit

So since it's not the LXDE popup from before, I couldn't adjust my wallpaper. I did a reboot and the same issue. So then I availed my ancient Amiga 500 CLI training and used terminal to chmod me permissions to move the wallpaper concerned out of the backgrounds file and into desktop with the hope that on a reboot since it wouldn't be found to spoil anything my account would return in my pre-wallpaper state. Wrong! Total black screen with the bottom panel bar totally gone! and instead there was a white strip at the top of the screen like a new panel bar totally bleached of any icons. I couldn't do any commands outside the F11 desktop thing with that generic pop-up. Scary! Luckily I had a second account I logged into which stlll normal, so assume my basic account settings had been somehow screwed just by resetting the size of a wallpaper maybe(?). I went into CLI and returned the wallpaper to the backgrounds file and rebooted and got the offending wallpaper back and now a blank black panel bar on top that I was able to F11 back down and start rebuilding with app icons. But I still can't get the LXDE popup or fix any wallpaper.

Can stretching a wallpaper (maybe oversized?) to fill an entire screen somehow knock out panel bar and cut off F11 clicks to reach Openbox Config Monitor to activate its LXDE popup? Now, I'm not totally sure I prior way to this tried to configure my panel bar to show on top with different schemes but it didn't take, so I'm just mentioning that if it lends any clue.

Jim in NYC.


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Re: Puzzling Basic Desktop Configurations
PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:28 pm 
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You can always delete that user and recreate it.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:30 pm 
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I know it sounds crazy but is there anyway to kill a wallpaper that won't go away? I was playing around with Docky (which did interact with the wallpaper funny) and realized I couldn't bring up the File Manager or Find File or several other features anymore. It's like they suddenly quit working -- or maybe I just can't see them now? My clue is I had put several text files on the desktop wallpaper (via File Manager no less since you can't directly drag anying to the desktop! Bad Bad!) and when I hit the panel icon or menu for File Manager the wallpaper would tremble a little and the icons disappeared, maybe like they'd suddenly been "shoved" under and hiidden by the wallpaper just like the window for File Manager and other features must've had. The same happens with other user accounts I made; their wallpapers are fixed or jammed solid and can't be changed and zit any File Manager appearing, despite how you reset wallpapers in the F11 Desltop Manager. I already re-installed Mint on top of my set-up to replace any files Docky may've corrupted but no go. Is my idea too far-fetched? Right now I have no File Manager to work with. Would somehow killing all the configuration files do it -- and how?

Thanks for any help!

Jim in NYC


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:00 pm 
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what you can try is to delete all your personal settings (no guarantee):

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rm -Rf ~/.config


logout and login. Hopefully that works. I would not play too much in LXDE. It's not extremely user friendly.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:02 am 
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I'm not condemning Docky in itself, but I highly suspect that using it somehow messed with the way LXDE menus pop up. Others please test backup my findings. With a wallpaper in place, activate Docky (in OS-X Dock look-alike mode) and see whether something odd occurs like the bottom quarter of your screen/wallpaper disappearing into black and thereafter even after reboots you can't summon File Manager or Find File or other LXDE menus anymore -- at best they just flicker for a millisecond. Dolphin and other file managers work just fine though. Debian should jump on this problem because who knows what other programs harbor the same landmine routines in their programming? Another Desktop no-no biggie is not being able to drag files directly on the desktop (like Mac and Win) without the pain of going through File Manager to do it. I don't know how/whether to file a bug report on these (are these already known?) but these are definite showstoppers to getting Mint accepted by the lay-user.

Jim in NYC


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Re: Puzzling Basic Desktop Configurations
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:35 am 
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The last problem you describe is a general LXDE (PPC?) problem. You might want to try LXDE on an Intel Debian Linux system and see if it works there. You could file a bug report on this one I guess. It's annoying that one cannot mount volumes directly on the desktop. This should normally work. Standard you would have to see "My Documents" and "My computer" or something similar of that kind on your desktop. Remind that Squeeze is not "finished" yet. It's still a testing system according to Debian standards. So filing a bug report now is a good idea.

I will also have a look if my settings are correct. Could well be that there is something wrong there.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:41 pm 
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I filed a bug report.


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Re: Puzzling Basic Desktop Configurations
PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:24 pm 
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I didn't read your whole post because im lazy but the black squar thing is because theres no compositing... thats not a problem with lxde ;)


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