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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:11 am 
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Maybe this should be in MintPPC11, but I just got 9 running so far. I am struggling with the very old mac-on-linux. I am desperate as Mint is running so beautifully, but after years of trying to get friends on Skype (I know it sucks now, but I am out of country), I find it hard to ask people to join something else. As well as 800 # are free on skype as well, a very handy feature.

Ok, on to point- I have looked at the ubuntu how to page, but apt-get install mol doesn't find mol. The tar file from surgeforce has a list of instructions, but from the first one I am confounded.
bash$ ./autogen.sh

I do have very little knowledge, but I do search and read much more than I post (clearly), but I cannot find much out there. I just think MintPPC with MOL could keep this old emac around a very long time.

Thanks for all you have done already-

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:34 am 
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You need a specialised kernel to be able to run mol. Google mol in combination with Debian. Maybe you can info on the net, I cannot help. It's no longer in the repositories since a long time.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:10 pm 
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Apologies for such a late reply.

I too wanted MOL, so downgraded to MintPPC 8. It supports MOL just fine.

Actually then, since I can't stand LXDE, and don't see the reason Mint PPC comes with Debian apps (aka cruft and clutter filling up my partition), I installed Debian Lenny XFCE. It works well, but it is a bit fiddly to get all the needed packages installed and configured. One hint, don't upgrade your kernel unless you're willing to go through all the work of compiling it to make MOL work. It may be definitely worth the effort, because the newer kernel supports PPC better, and you can custom compile it for your machine, but it won't "just work" out of the box.

HTH, SK


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Re: Mac-on-Linux
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:15 pm 
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JD, since our user base is largely [former/current] mac users that may want MOL, we may wish to build MOL & Kernel and add them to our repos for easy install. Thoughts?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:21 pm 
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If I find the time, I will have a look. No guarantees here.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:30 am 
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Count me in as one more vote for 'easy inclusion of precompiled MOL'. I'd use it for sure! Possibly also Sheepshaver, Basilisk II and vMac.

For the same reason too, unfortunately. Skype being closed source, and me having friends and relatives overseas who aren't as computer savvy, I need it to keep in touch. Though I see someone already made a partially successful attempt to reverse-engineer their protocol:

http://skype-open-source.blogspot.com/2 ... eered.html

Too bad Skype and their new corporate overlords at Microsoft deliberately change new versions to break backwards compatibility and then shut old clients off from logging in.

As for MOL, I'm game to try making it work. :-)


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:29 am 
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Keep in touch lubod...


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:47 am 
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MOL is going to be a bugger to make work.

Of the other 3 you mentioned, 2 are easily available.(Not sure about basilisk) An emu-pak would be cool, and maybe even something within my "limited" abilities, :lol:

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Well, I approach all this from the 'I was a sys. admin, end-user, and general hacker (in the good sense, making things work because I can!) first'.

My programming and package making skills are quite limited, but I want to learn how to make packages out of raw source code. Already tried a couple of times with very limited success in Ubuntu, found the combination of Debian packaging and Ubuntu-izing (is that even a verb?) someone else's source code a very steep learning curve!

And my experience with ./configure ./make ./make install is even more limited and less succesful.
I keep trying because once I get it it will help me get software I want to work, and I can add it to my resume :-)

On another similar tack, is a recent Qemu build available/possible? that may be a decent way to run Classic Mac OS 9 say, perhaps making MOL slightly less urgent. And it might even be an interesting way to run/develop stuff for other systems (ARM, or embedded PowerPC).


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:18 am 
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lubod: try pbuilder. It's a great tool to create packages in Debian. That is what I use for MintPPC. I am not going to teach you how to do it though.


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